Sisters now with complete codex

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Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:29 pm

So now that the WD has come out to complete the Sisters of Battle codex, there has been no one discussing them. So, what are your thoughts on the codex.
My thoughts are basically, they made battle sisters worse and cost more points. They lost the ability to have different acts of faith. Now it allows them to rally. If you play any version of space marines, you get that ability, and it always works, no luck of the faith dice. Also for 3-4 points less than a marine you are getting -1 WS, S, T, I, Ld. Basically I see absolutly no reason to play this army instead of any marine variant.

Sadly it looks like my sisters will be remaining in their overweight army case for the next few years.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Commander_Jay » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:49 pm

Werent they always like that? I mean Marines, but 4 pts less. Its always been about the bolter and armor. They have more bolter shots than a Marine army, and hopefully will ride that to victory.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Xelloss » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:56 pm

They used to be GOOD like that. Not the case anymore. They got more expensive without gaining anything, plus they took away the useful special rules they had. Whats the point now?
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:10 pm

They are a point more per model than they used to be. They also cannot do any of the cool things that fate could give them. The faith points was really what helped them from being either bad marines or good IG. When marines went up a point they gained frag/krak and a bolt pistol. When sisters went up a point they lost their cool abilities.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Xelloss » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:29 pm

It's mostly that they just dumbed down the whole thing.

Acts of Faith-
The entire army gets d6 faith points every movement phase, regardless of the point size of the game (no, they don't rollover.) Acts of faith are assigned per unit, similar to the grey knights unique psychic powers in every unit. Rolling for acts of faith now relies on a single dice roll that succeeds 1/3 of the time. A few conditions can give a +1 to the roll, similar to DE pain tokens.

Just about the entire army has a 6+ invul save now, so they did gain something, slight as it is. The overall points increase is actually justified, as they now all have the same grenade load-out as marines by default, so its not really the end of the world. Heavy weapon prices went down a tad, but everyone typically is going to take two specials so who cares (heavy flamer prices approach what's normally seen on devastators, but it IS an option.)

Its pretty much what happened to the blood angels and their WD codex. Things got simplified, they took out the fun stuff, and brought them up to basic 5th edition standards. Now we await a real codex.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Rogue » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:30 pm

thats what GW does now. they take armies, and remove their special rules, so that they can all be more like space marines.

like the tyranids.

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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby orkwarboss » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:36 pm

my 2 cents:

give the nuns with guns a WD "update" that should be better. everyone moves their collection on the aftermarket. new book shows up with mistakes fixed. sales jump cause you have to rebuy. dont move them Kev.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:40 pm

Im not moving them, but it does seem like a shame to have an army that retails for $800+ sitting in a bag until GW decides to make them playable again.
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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby J Rzasa » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:00 pm

I haven't discussed them because there are no new models, and all the press I've heard is exactly what you said, they really aren't worth fielding.

I'd like to quietly hope that we will see a codex in the next couple years, and it is rumored that they will be in the box set that comes out.

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Re: Sisters now with complete codex

Postby Dez » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:56 am

There are lots of rumors concerning Plastic Sisters models, which we have seen nothing new released in the WD codex. They're coming soon...and hopefully with a better book.
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