First impressions

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First impressions

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:45 pm

Damn Phil Kelly wants everything to be more points.
I'm not talking a couple of points here or there. A demon prince geared up the same way as the previous book now costs 70 more points. But for those 70 points you gain +2 ws, +3I and an attack. Certainly not worth the points jump, but marines needing 5s to hit in cc is nice. Also the defiler jumped about 40 points.
All in all it is a pretty nice book, but other then the points changes, and a couple new units most things stayed the same.
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Re: First impressions

Postby Dez » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:14 pm

I found that besides those two it seemed to be a points reduction. Tale a look at Noise Marines, Lords, Sorcerer, CSM...pretty nice IMO.

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Re: First impressions

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:30 pm

Marines are +1 point to be where they were last addition with the gain of hatred SM.

Obliterations did keep power fist which is nice. Predators are cheaper. No chaos lord with mark of Tzeentch (although from memory don't know if that is a change). Sorcerers don't see to have the same stats, and a drop in BS makes their powers less effective.
Thousand sons sorceress are cheaper, and lots of options for most units is good.

No summoned demons, is strongly making my list for the upcoming tournament a last hurrah of stuff that won't be used again.
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Re: First impressions

Postby Xelloss » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:53 pm

A lot of things went up in price, but not everything. I will miss having both cult units as troops plus dual prince's, but that's life. Flakk missiles don't look like their going to be worth it (you'll be paying a hundred points for 4 missiles with the things, on top of the unit cost) and they still don't have a split fire option. Has anyone noticed the sheer size of the fiends? Their the size of defilers, but only have 3 hull points.
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Re: First impressions

Postby Slimnoid » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:00 pm

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Re: First impressions

Postby Dez » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:41 pm

They also have Demonic Possession if I recall, making them pretty darn tough.

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Re: First impressions

Postby Inquisitor Wall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:22 pm

You can't really skip the veterans upgrade for the marines as the +1 ld is pretty major. And it gets them to the same stats as the previous book.

The defiler also has it will not die and 4hp and 5+ save. Makes it more survivable as well.

I'm really looking at spawn as being pretty good. 150 points for 5 gives you 15 wounds as T5 and are pretty fast being beasts. Once in combat they have some pretty good upgrades and have rage.

Yeah terminators don't really seem too impressive at all. I still can't believe gw refuses to make termies ws5
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Re: First impressions

Postby Slimnoid » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:11 pm

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